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		<title>By: Leopard to bring Multi-Touch to the Desktop</title>
		<link>http://www.makeshitbreakshit.com/2007/02/28/one-more-thing-leopards-key-feature-to-be-multi-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-4219</link>
		<dc:creator>Leopard to bring Multi-Touch to the Desktop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Signs point to Apple bringing multi-touch across the lineup, especially considering competitors are shipping systems with the same technology.read more &#124; digg story [...]</description>
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		<title>By: groov'bro</title>
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		<dc:creator>groov'bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CHRIS SAID : "- a mouse is more precise and quick as your hand on a screen while having the added benefit of being less stressful on your muscles for long term use." (...) "- More precise - screen elements can be smaller for a mouse driven interface than a finger interface"

- Nothing remains impossible in the fact that we can simulate a virtual pointer that would be directed by the finger on the screen. That pointer can even remain at the actual mouse size.

CHRIS SAID : "- Try tapping your finger on the table 1000 times a day for a year. A mouse button provides a cushioned click. A hard display screen does not. "
Well i must have done that a lot since i had my iphone and can assure that it is not a problem...

CHRIS SAID : "- It’s not going to be comfortable in the long run and is probably more likely to result in repetitive stress injuries. If you only use a computer for a couple of minutes a day then the idea of a touchscreen is probably appealing. If you spend hours per day using a computer then you are likely to think the ergonomics of using a touchscreen are terrible. Tired arms and fingers will result from extended use."

- I can assure you that i must use the computer more than 10H a/day and can (too) easylly imagine the same time spent on a tactile surface... esp for musical apps. And mone more time : it would certainly not be a problem to build apps compatibles touch &amp; mouse+key.

CHRIS SAID : "- The mouse : Quicker - I can scroll through a long stack of albums in coverflow view faster and with less effort with the scroll wheel than I could with a finger on the screen. Trust me on this."

Oula i would certainly not trut you on this. A simple tap on the "elevator" the way we do it with the mouse and the scrolling will be exactly the same. Actually it is already...

xxdesmus said,
March 1, 2007 @ 2:44 pm

"I think touch screens are a gigantic waste of time for 99% of cases. Ignoring the fact that they are significantly more expensive than standard LCDs and the fact that they smudge, scratch, and generally get mucked up easily …I think touch screens would be a huge mistake.

Granted, this sounds remarkably similar to Windows Tablet Edition *cough* (Copy Machine who?)"

haha ! i really do not think that that type of screen is "unaffordable", look at the iphone, we mostly pay for the concept &amp; idea than the building cost itself - esp. regarding the screen
I have an iphone and can assure you that the scratch thing you've been mentioning is no problem at all. And surely wont get scratched the way do say nor as fast.

Alain Azzam said,
March 1, 2007 @ 2:56 pm

I would not want multi-touch on my screen, but I would LOVE to have it on a mousepad. The reason is simple: on all these videos of multitouch I’ve seen, you see a user working on a vertical monitor. That is INSANE"

Okay there is some of the video that you don't have seen then...
One more time (i say it evruwhere), i don't think this is an argumentation because it is easy to built a work space around "a tablet" (no matter how big it is), and have it on a table as the ones used by the architectes, drawers... and remember the times where you could have the CRT screen built in the desktop at your office ?

a double screen notebook... yeah, it should be nice...
what ?... no keyboard &amp; mouse ? - i don't care : i have 'em at home and still can plug 'em in USB... the screen will get dirty ? .... neeeee, i don't mind, i see what it is like with an iphone, i don't see the traces because of the screen luminosity.

Apple will realese something this year... it's about time...
have you noticed ? ... (regarding the computer bizness), some good things are happening since a few years... SSD HDD, multi touch interfaces...

you have noticed : i'm with the ones who can't wait to see apple realese something real when multitouch speaking ;) ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CHRIS SAID : &#8220;- a mouse is more precise and quick as your hand on a screen while having the added benefit of being less stressful on your muscles for long term use.&#8221; (&#8230;) &#8220;- More precise - screen elements can be smaller for a mouse driven interface than a finger interface&#8221;</p>
<p>- Nothing remains impossible in the fact that we can simulate a virtual pointer that would be directed by the finger on the screen. That pointer can even remain at the actual mouse size.</p>
<p>CHRIS SAID : &#8220;- Try tapping your finger on the table 1000 times a day for a year. A mouse button provides a cushioned click. A hard display screen does not. &#8221;<br />
Well i must have done that a lot since i had my iphone and can assure that it is not a problem&#8230;</p>
<p>CHRIS SAID : &#8220;- It’s not going to be comfortable in the long run and is probably more likely to result in repetitive stress injuries. If you only use a computer for a couple of minutes a day then the idea of a touchscreen is probably appealing. If you spend hours per day using a computer then you are likely to think the ergonomics of using a touchscreen are terrible. Tired arms and fingers will result from extended use.&#8221;</p>
<p>- I can assure you that i must use the computer more than 10H a/day and can (too) easylly imagine the same time spent on a tactile surface&#8230; esp for musical apps. And mone more time : it would certainly not be a problem to build apps compatibles touch &amp; mouse+key.</p>
<p>CHRIS SAID : &#8220;- The mouse : Quicker - I can scroll through a long stack of albums in coverflow view faster and with less effort with the scroll wheel than I could with a finger on the screen. Trust me on this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oula i would certainly not trut you on this. A simple tap on the &#8220;elevator&#8221; the way we do it with the mouse and the scrolling will be exactly the same. Actually it is already&#8230;</p>
<p>xxdesmus said,<br />
March 1, 2007 @ 2:44 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;I think touch screens are a gigantic waste of time for 99% of cases. Ignoring the fact that they are significantly more expensive than standard LCDs and the fact that they smudge, scratch, and generally get mucked up easily …I think touch screens would be a huge mistake.</p>
<p>Granted, this sounds remarkably similar to Windows Tablet Edition *cough* (Copy Machine who?)&#8221;</p>
<p>haha ! i really do not think that that type of screen is &#8220;unaffordable&#8221;, look at the iphone, we mostly pay for the concept &amp; idea than the building cost itself - esp. regarding the screen<br />
I have an iphone and can assure you that the scratch thing you&#8217;ve been mentioning is no problem at all. And surely wont get scratched the way do say nor as fast.</p>
<p>Alain Azzam said,<br />
March 1, 2007 @ 2:56 pm</p>
<p>I would not want multi-touch on my screen, but I would LOVE to have it on a mousepad. The reason is simple: on all these videos of multitouch I’ve seen, you see a user working on a vertical monitor. That is INSANE&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay there is some of the video that you don&#8217;t have seen then&#8230;<br />
One more time (i say it evruwhere), i don&#8217;t think this is an argumentation because it is easy to built a work space around &#8220;a tablet&#8221; (no matter how big it is), and have it on a table as the ones used by the architectes, drawers&#8230; and remember the times where you could have the CRT screen built in the desktop at your office ?</p>
<p>a double screen notebook&#8230; yeah, it should be nice&#8230;<br />
what ?&#8230; no keyboard &amp; mouse ? - i don&#8217;t care : i have &#8216;em at home and still can plug &#8216;em in USB&#8230; the screen will get dirty ? &#8230;. neeeee, i don&#8217;t mind, i see what it is like with an iphone, i don&#8217;t see the traces because of the screen luminosity.</p>
<p>Apple will realese something this year&#8230; it&#8217;s about time&#8230;<br />
have you noticed ? &#8230; (regarding the computer bizness), some good things are happening since a few years&#8230; SSD HDD, multi touch interfaces&#8230;</p>
<p>you have noticed : i&#8217;m with the ones who can&#8217;t wait to see apple realese something real when multitouch speaking ;) ;)</p>
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		<title>By: naisioxerloro</title>
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		<dc:creator>naisioxerloro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. 
Good design, who make it?</description>
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Good design, who make it?</p>
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		<title>By: sens8shun.com &#187; The Multi-Touch Gimmick?</title>
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		<dc:creator>sens8shun.com &#187; The Multi-Touch Gimmick?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 03:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Commenting on my post about Microsoft&#8217;s botched marketing initiative for Surface, my friend Angel checks in from Florida and directs me to this post suggesting that multi-touch will be Steve Jobs&#8217; &#8220;one more thing&#8221; when he does the official introduction of Leopard. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Commenting on my post about Microsoft&#8217;s botched marketing initiative for Surface, my friend Angel checks in from Florida and directs me to this post suggesting that multi-touch will be Steve Jobs&#8217; &#8220;one more thing&#8221; when he does the official introduction of Leopard. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that they could put this to use in their laptop line by not having a keyboard or trackpad...just have a screen were they currently are. Instead of having it fixed in plastic you could manipulate the look and feel of your keyboard.. i would like to ba able to download designs as a keyboard =D it would be amazing..also have the keyboard dissapear wen not in use or needed and have a screen saver turn on. also you could use it as a second screen and just make it be able to visually join with the real screen (just like you could have 2 or 3 screens side by side function as one) and when you need the keyboard you could make a gesture that maked it float over the current windows open, in the exact same way that dashboard fades into the screen on macs. idk just a thought...tryed to explain what im visualizing but it may not make sence to most of u =) this is kinda wat i imagine thoe its a horrible drawing XD sorry im not  an artist =D   &lt;a href="http://photobucket.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;   idk if that shows on here but i hope it does =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that they could put this to use in their laptop line by not having a keyboard or trackpad&#8230;just have a screen were they currently are. Instead of having it fixed in plastic you could manipulate the look and feel of your keyboard.. i would like to ba able to download designs as a keyboard =D it would be amazing..also have the keyboard dissapear wen not in use or needed and have a screen saver turn on. also you could use it as a second screen and just make it be able to visually join with the real screen (just like you could have 2 or 3 screens side by side function as one) and when you need the keyboard you could make a gesture that maked it float over the current windows open, in the exact same way that dashboard fades into the screen on macs. idk just a thought&#8230;tryed to explain what im visualizing but it may not make sence to most of u =) this is kinda wat i imagine thoe its a horrible drawing XD sorry im not  an artist =D   <a href="http://photobucket.com" rel="nofollow"></a>   idk if that shows on here but i hope it does =)</p>
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		<title>By: MSBS &#8216;07 &#187; Apple hiring multi-touch engineer?</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSBS &#8216;07 &#187; Apple hiring multi-touch engineer?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How this pans out is anyone&#8217;s guess, but I still stand by what I wrote last week. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Apple TechCast 19 - Multi Touch-- TechCast Network</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apple TechCast 19 - Multi Touch-- TechCast Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 23:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Multi-touch on the desktop [...]</description>
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		<title>By: markoos</title>
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		<dc:creator>markoos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 21:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about integration with, say photoshop/illustrator? paths, strokes etc, with a fingertip and a tap to create a new point; or editing an image by lightly brushing your fingertips over it... I see this thing being very heavily applied in the visual field as well as live audio, as it would make a fantastic real time controller for audio apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about integration with, say photoshop/illustrator? paths, strokes etc, with a fingertip and a tap to create a new point; or editing an image by lightly brushing your fingertips over it&#8230; I see this thing being very heavily applied in the visual field as well as live audio, as it would make a fantastic real time controller for audio apps.</p>
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		<title>By: MAC-SYS LTD &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MultiTouch Macs soon?</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAC-SYS LTD &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MultiTouch Macs soon?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rumours that Apple might use multi-touch on the Mac are very compelling especially when you consider that they have software that does audio and video mixing. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: pristina.org &#124; everything design &#187; links for 2007-03-02</title>
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		<dc:creator>pristina.org &#124; everything design &#187; links for 2007-03-02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 04:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MSBS ‘07 » One more thing: Leopard’s key feature to be Multi-Touch. (tags: apple leopard multitouch) [...]</description>
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